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AFA: A Teacher, a Coach and a Student April 18, 2008

Posted by truthspew in AFA, religion.
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As a freedom of speech advocate I have trouble with this. But I do believe there’s a line between protected speech and proselytizing.

The rights of Christians are under attack again! Consider what has happened just in the last week:

* In New Jersey, East Brunswick High School officials told football coach Marcus Borden he cannot kneel and bow his head while members of his team have a student-led pre-game prayer. (source)

There should be no prayers at school sponsored events, including sporting events. If you want to have a team hug, moment of silence, etc. I’m fine with that. But if you want to kneel and bow your head to your god, all bets are off. That’s an outward sign of your faith that should not be allowed.

* In Wisconsin’s Tomah Area School District, a teacher refused to give a student identified only as A.T. a grade on an art project because his work included “John 3:16” as well as “A sign of love.” However, Buddha, Hindu and sorcerers are considered “approved” forms of art by the school. (source)

The reference to John 3:16 is “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” the standard Christian refrain that has no place in an art project. I also consider Buddha, Hindu and sorcerers to be verboten subjects. Certainly the AFA believes they should mention that other religions are permitted but the reality of it is I consider Christianity or an Abrahamic monotheistic religion to be inherently evil.

It’s a feature of a monotheistic school of religion, whereas Buddhism is more a spiritual philosophy than a dogmatic religion.

Mostly it’s an apples to oranges comparison on the part of the AFA.

* In Mt. Vernon, Ohio, school leaders told teacher John Freshwater he must put his Bible out of sight when students are in his room. Mr. Freshwater has refused to do so. He has had a Bible on his desk for the past 18 years. (source)

Indeed, Mr. Freshwater is wearing his religion on his sleeve which is not permitted in secular society. He’s also guilt of proselytizing but in what he considers to be an indirect way, as if just having the book on his desk is enough to have kids ask him questions. It’s an invitation to discuss the book.

Actually what I’d like to see Mr. Freshwater do is critically discuss the book, read it along with his students and pick out the parts that are anachronistic, no longer applying to modern societies. You know, things like women as chattel, justification of slavery, the prohibition against eating pork or shellfish which are in fact abominations too though were one to eat undercooked or raw pork or shellfish the parastites would have their way with you, thus the abomination aspect.

Reading and dissecting the entire Bible is what cemented me as an atheist. You cannot apply critical thinking skills to the Bible and still maintain ones faith. I know there are those who claim they can do this but they’re lying to themselves.

That’s the other thing that gets me. Science is predicated upon the facts that you have open publication available for peer review, and that other peers can build upon that work by perhaps proving your theory through experimentation, etc.

Religious texts hold up to no such principles. Just look at the number of different texts there are that claim to be the one, true Bible. If they are the word of a god, don’t you think that god would make absolutely certain that the books were inerrant and syntactically correct? So now we hear they’re divinely inspired. It’s almost as though they want it to resolve the contradictions found in the books of the religious texts.

As the Skeptic’s Annotated Bible points out, the Bible is a book with an Agenda, same as the Quran and the texts of Judiac religions. BTW, if you want to read something truly psychotic check out the Quran, the Book of Mormon isn’t far behind and the Scientologist story is just the tops in the psychobabble.

Our religious freedoms are slowly being taken away, mainly because Christians have not taken a stand! People of faith are being forced to remain silent while other religions are accepted in the name of “tolerance.”

I’m not focused on just Christianity I think most religions are bovine effluvia that have no place in the public and secular sphere. You’re still free to put up your “I’m in the book. – God” billboards, and I’m still free to poke fun at them. I just object to religion being forced on kids too young to realize what religion really happens to be, I say that religions cannot recruit anyone until the age of 18.

You all realize what religion actually has a a purpose. It isn’t salvation of a non-existent soul but to support a clerical class whose goal is to foist their version of society upon us, a version which has been shown time and again to setup the existence of the ‘other’ and to make war against that other.

So get real, look around you. There is no divine intervention all there is are the other people. Get to know them, make some friends that you can depend on, and maybe you won’t need the fake veneer of religion to get along.



1. A.M.Brewster - April 18, 2008

“Religion cannot recruit anyone until the age of 18.”

But humanism is allowed to inflitrate children’s programming. Interesting.

Get real, look around you. There is divine intervention. You just don’t want to see it.

-=-=-=Truthspew Again Shoots down a God Driven Argument-=-=-

Yes, humanism is it because that’s what is all around us. Our fellow man, something you conveniently forget. And some of you think our forefathers were Christians, no they were humanists too. You just ascribe Christian principles to their thoughts.

No I see nature all around me. You see a God sky fairy above pulling the strings. You forget that plants are in fact alive, you forget that other life is around us. Who are we to assume we’re most intelligent, it’s all relevant.

The intelligence I speak of is not that of a god, but that of natural selection, Darwin’s law.

2. no milk - April 19, 2008

i don’t have a problem with religion per se in public life, but the fact is, to favor one religion over another would be unequal. so, therefore, the solution should be to not favor one over the other, therefore, none. i don’t see why religious people don’t see this. if we allow christianity to have a position in school, then a muslim teacher should be able to bring in their beliefs as well. what if a satanist decides to pray in class to satan before starting their class?

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